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Mmh, Hey, what's up?
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Everybody?
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Just be cold young with this merry podcast and this
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is my cold the Lovely Lady G. I dook thought
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on how you doing?
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What's up everybody?
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How's everybody doing tonight? I hope everybody is having a
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wonderful evening. And thanks suspending it with us. What happened?
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So what's so funny?
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No, I said, ain't nobody going, Oh yeah, nobody?
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Well we have we have a chat room if y'all
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want to hop into the chat room and say what
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you want to say, discuss what you want to discuss.
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We have a lot of a lot of shit to
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talk about tonight. First and foremost, I want to ask
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I looked thought on how she been, how you doing?
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How's everything going good?
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Just got back back from you know, a little break,
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worked a little bit, but I'm back back in to
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the swing of things.
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All right, Yeah, man, how you doing? How you doing?
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Man?
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Everything's good? Hope everything is good? So so yeah, I mean,
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as far as I'm concerned, and everything's cool, everything's things
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all right, you know what I'm saying. Live, We're alive,
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you know what I mean. So that's that's that's something.
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Yeah, it's always something to be happy about.
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Yeah, always, definitely. So we have a couple of topics
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at hand that we're going to talk about discuss tonight.
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We also want to throw it to the chat room
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as well. If there's something you guys want to hear
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us discuss something you have and you know something you
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want to talk about, throw it right at us. You
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know what I'm saying. We'll be more than have be
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to you know, discuss whatever it is the fans want
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to hear you know what I'm saying. So first of all,
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we're going to start off with a situation. One of
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the fans the show wrote in and asked a question
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and he wants, I guess some kind of advice or
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something on his situation. So he has his situation. He
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owes back child support, right, he owes back child support,
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and he owes a substantial amount of money. Now, the
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problem is that he has two kids. The one kid
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he doesn't pay child support for anymore because he's he's
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out of school and you know, he's over eight, he's
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like twenty seven or whatever. But now his other child,
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the problem is that legally, if the child graduates high
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school and doesn't continue schooling. I'm assuming the child support
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should stop.
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Right In the state of New Jersey, kids get child
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support until the age of till their nineteenth birthday.
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Nineteen h so it's nine eighteen, it's nineteen.
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Unless they go to it's nineteen their nineteenth birthday. Because
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so when they hit their nineteenth birthday, that's in the
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state of New Jersey, that's when childhood stopped, or child
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support stops. If they decide to go to a trade school,
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any kind of secondary education, as long as they're taking
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twelve credits or going full time, support can contain you
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until the age of twenty three.
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Okay, So his situation is like this, His kid graduated
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high school, didn't go back, didn't go back to school
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at all, child support was still being deducted, and then
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what ended up happening was, he says the child the
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kid moved to Florida with fiance, boyfriend or something and
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now lives in Florida, but the child support is still
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being deducted where the mom lives in some other states
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somewhere else.
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So right, so, basically New Jersey contacted the mother asked
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if you know informing her that child support would stop
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at nineteen unless she requested an extension and could prove
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that the child was attending some kind of secondary education.
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So before it cuts off, about six months before, everyone
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receives a notification and a request to submit if they
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would like to ask for an extension. So somebody asked
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for an extension, and that's why it's still collecting, because
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nobody has filed to have it terminated.
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Oh so you have to file get terminated. This does
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automatically stop.
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No, it should, but she may have filled out the
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application to have it continue. But it was his responsibility
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as the person paying. It was his responsibility to file
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to make sure that the childhood that child support was terminated. Mhm,
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I see something in the chat going on right there.
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Oh yeah, and he has to pay. He has to pay,
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thanks Melissa. He has to pay his arrears. So that's
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probably also why it's still coming out. So the child support,
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the active child support may have finished, but he still
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owes all those years of arrears. That doesn't stop collecting
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just because.
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Yeah that that that I that I know. As long
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as he as long as he continues to owe whatever it.
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Is he owes, that case is going to stay open.
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It's going to stay open. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's
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that's wild. It's it's it's just that what he's what
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he's trying to say is why why is it Why
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is it still adding on to what he owes if
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the child is not in school or doesn't even live
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where the mother lives, and she's out of state, and
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why is it still Well, it.
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Doesn't matter if she's out of state or not. What
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he owes he owes no matter where she goes. And
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I'm not so sure that it is, uh still collecting.
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It could just be the arrears. Uh. Some states actually
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tackle on interest really Yeah, Like New York they tack
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on interest. Uh wow, Maryland they tack on interest.
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Oh shit really yeah wow.
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So so if you if you owe, if if the
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child support has stopped and you owe and you haven't,
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if you have yet to pay the arrears, money gets
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tacked on in New York and Maryland.
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Yeah, it's if it's there, if it's their orders. Yeah,
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as long as you owe money, there's going to be
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interest charged.
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Oh I didn't know that.
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Yeah, because see, every state is every state has its
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own governing laws. Even internationally, every country has its own
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governing laws like, for instance, in the state of Pennsylvania,
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the age of majority is eighteen. It stops at eighteen
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unless the child is in high school. State of New
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Jersey is nineteenth birthday or if they continue to go
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on to school up to twenty three. Other states stop
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at eighteen, and other states, you know, continue on and
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if the child is disabled they can get it for lifetime.
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Really, yeah, you.
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Are dropping some knowledge just how to do that? Not
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loud enough, but all right, Yeah, I didn't I didn't
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know that. I had no no clue that that's how.
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That's how. And I thought I thought it was eighteen.
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I didn't know in the state this state it was nineteen.
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So even it hasn't been that way for a very
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long time, there used to be a point where New
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Jersey didn't have a state of majority, a state of emancipation,
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I mean age of emancipation, but they did. I don't
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know how many years it's been, but yeah, it's stayed
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nineteenth birthday.
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So to the dude that rode in and asked the question,
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your answer, bro, And the crazy, the crazy part about
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it is, so the state the state that let me
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see if he has it in here, the state that
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the the family moved to after leaving New Jersey was
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actually Maryland. HM.
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Well, see, you also have to understand something. It doesn't
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matter what state somebody moves to. What matters is the
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state that the core order, the support order was created in.
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So there's something called there's something called CEJ which is
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the control the state with the controlling order. Right, So
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even though they moved to five million states, right, it
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doesn't matter. As long as they register that core order
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in their state, it's still going to collect, but it
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will always follow the state that created the order. It
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will always follow their state rules. So no matter what state,
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if it's a New Jersey order, if the order was
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created in the state of New Jersey, New Jersey is
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the one that controls the order. No other state can
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modify or change that order unless they register it for modification.
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But New Jersey will still always own that core order.
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So they move to Maryland, that's fine, but it doesn't
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matter what Maryland's law is because it's a New Jersey
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core order, so that the age of emancipation will always
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be nineteen and if they go to school, it will
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be twenty three. Where somebody who lives in the state
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of New Jersey. But their support order is from Pennsylvania.
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It doesn't matter that they live in New Jersey. It
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doesn't go by New Jersey law because it's a Pennsylvania order.
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So once that child hits the age of eighteen or
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finishes high school, it's going to automatically be terminate, even
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in the state of New Jersey because it's not a
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New Jersey order, it's Pennsylvania's order. And so some people try,
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some people try to be slick uh, and they'll close
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or they let the Pennsylvania order like execute, like finish,
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and then and then they'll try to apply in New
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Jersey so they can get those extra couple of years.
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But it doesn't. But it doesn't work that way. The
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judge will tell you no, because once an order for
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a child is terminated, you can't get extra you know,
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extra time on that mm hmm.
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Okay. Knowledge, yeah, love learning things.
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And I'll always be the one to teach you.
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Yeah, oh yeah.
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But even even further than that, even further than the laws,
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the rules, the regulations is the whole idea of and
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and it happens a lot the back and forth about
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you know, some people feeling like it's not fair that.
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And the funny thing is the law not the laws,
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but the tides are changing. It's not as prevalent as
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it used to be. Where back in the day when
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people were still like stay at home moms most of
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the time things like that, the men really didn't have
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too much that they could work with. It was, you know,
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the judges and the courts were really in mom's side,
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right because she's the one doing all the raising and
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things like that. But culture has shifted where more men
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are taking care of the kids, having custody of their
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kids and things like that, and judges really are trying
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to create that joint custody. So men are not owing
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as much as they used to. But the thing is,
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whether it's a man a woman, it doesn't matter. Yes,
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we still have a lot of work to do in
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the system. However, it's improving. It's better than it used
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to be. But the thing is, the point blank is
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two people got together once upon a time, chose one another,
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had a child or children. Right, that does not that
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responsibility does not change just because you're not together anymore.
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You don't stop being a parent just because your relationship
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has ended. And what's happening is you know, men and women.
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I know people don't be because it's a majority of
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men because that's what they do. But it's women too.
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There are women who owe thousands of dollars in arrears
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in child support. The thing is, everybody's always saying, oh, well,
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you know, she should let that go, or he should
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let that go, or why do I have to pay
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this much or that much? Because your child is still
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your responsibility and not everyone in this world was brought
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up to believe that being a good parent involves contributing
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half of what the child needs or children need. So
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when people break up, it's all like, well, I don't
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have to pay for this anymore, and I don't have
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to pay for that because we're not living together or
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we're not married anymore, and that's just not true. You know,
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all the states have a formulary where they compare how
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much time the children spend with both parents, what are
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the incomes of both parents, and that's how they determine,
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you know, the amount of child support that is paid.
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But a lot of people and it's funny because it
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has unfortunately more to women. You know, where the guys
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talk them into dropping the child support or dismissing the arrears.
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And you know, if they do that that, I mean,
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that's their choice. That's their choice. But you also see
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a lot of people who come back again, especially women,
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who come back and want to reinstate that. And you know,
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because they'll say, well, he promised that I dropped the case,
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that he would pay me so much a month. I
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don't care who you are if you believe that there's
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something wrong, because nobody, I mean, even though you're on probation.
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By doing that the truth is the only fair way
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to do it is to go through the system because
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it keeps it keeps the checks and balances for both sides.
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It ensures that it ensures that the custodial parent gets