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0:09 S S S S S S YO except everybody this big holy on of this My Herd podcast being joined here by the lovely TG Love. How are we doing.

1:37 I'm doing good. That's that's awesome. That's great. How was your week? Well two weeks really because we haven't been on. It's no like crazy. They did a crap job clean in our parking lot, and I'm like fighting for my spot. So like I'm every day I leave work and I'm like praying that I have a spot when I come home. It's ridiculous. Oh parking spot. No, I have the handicap, but there's only two spots. My one neighbor uses the other spot. And now there's somebody else who comes here sometimes who also has one, So if she gets here before me when she comes over, then I'm stuck.

2:25 Ah. But I'm going to request for a reserve, like a reserve spot, so I don't have to deal with this. Yeah, that makes sense, That's what I would do. Take care of it. Yeah, Oh I heard my door. I thought the cats were out, but the cats are in here with me. That just means Hubby got home. All right, So I got I got some some emails. Here mm hmmm, and why finish my dinner? All right? Why not? We're live. You know, I did have a drink somewhere. I don't know where it went.

3:12 Drink. Hopefully it's not anywhere near the desk where I can swing and knock it over, because that would be disastrous. No, it wouldn't be good at all. All right, So email, Yes, I got an email from someone. I'm assuming it's a it's a woman. Her name is Polly Pocket. So Polly Pocket says, this is the title of an email. I told my partner I wanted to be Polly, and now we might have to break up. I'm devastated. Yeah, my partner and I have been together for three years. We had talked about being Polly at the very start of our relationship, but monogamy fits our needs better at the time.

4:07 I started to realize as years went by that I was happiest when I was poly. I here sexual mono and heterosexual monogamy made me frequently feel trapped into a role I did not quite fit. I decided to tell my partner that I wanted to open the relationship. I was scared he would shoot me down, but I was expecting it. He surprised me by saying he was on board. We immediately yeah. We immediately started talking about the details and intricacies of our future relationship, how we wanted to handle things, boundaries, etc. So I was excited and so grateful to have a partner who was on the same page as me. I was really excited for this new chapter in our relationship. However, I noticed as we kept discussing it, he kept getting more and more disinterested and asking me more jealous driven questions. Last night, as we were driving home from a party, he finally said it, he is not interested in polyamory. He felt like he was being backed into a corner, and while initially excited, he was very happy in our relationship and didn't want

5:39 anything and didn't want anyone else. I love him so much. I want to marry this man, have children with him. I love him endlessly, but I do not know if I can truly be happy with him while denying this part of myself. I'm at a fork in the road and I and I don't know which path to take. It's so painful that I don't know what to do. Any and all advice will be appreciated. Thank you from Holly pocket. Mm hmm, see that Polly life. It ain't for everybody.

6:21 It's just it isn't. So my first taking it all in, yeah, I wrote some things down. They did the right things, the right steps, but then that jealousy aspect came in, which means he can't He can't really do it. He was saying yes to please her. My thing is, yes, you would marry this man and have his children. However, why would you want to marry someone and have children with someone who can't support the kind of relationship that you want to have that That's where I go with this, really, like that's the first thing that I went to was like, he isn't the one. He may be great, there may be yeah, and it's gonna be sad. And I, of course, we hate when things don't work out with somebody that we've invested time, emotion, like love, finance and all that shit in a relationship. But you have to be real with yourself. What's gonna make you happy? You already said what's going to make you happy? Do not deny yourself that because the person you thought was gonna have this life with you?

7:36 Right? Because they she said they did discuss this way before right relationship. He can't do it, So I don't think he should be forced into it. That is totally respect respectful of her to be like, you know, I need to respect his choice. He doesn't. It would be too much for him. He can't have an open heart that way. So move on. I know, easier said than done, but like, let's be real, like you're not gonna have the relationship you want to have.

8:17 I don't think it's fair for her to give that up either. You know what happened. You know what happens if she gives that up. A lack a lot of that, A lot of that for sure. I mean it's heartbreaking. Like, like I said, you invested in this person thinking it was gonna be something else and it isn't. Unfortunately, Like, don't. I would never force somebody like this to me? Is the the cue, the the big hello, We're not like, it's not gonna work.

9:04 You want to talk about red flag, there's your red flag and it's a huge one for you because he can't fulfill something that you need. So sorry, So they don't. They don't do this. They he's not done with it. What's what's the what's the biggest what would what what would be the biggest obstacle for him? If he decided, you know what, baby, let's let's let's do this. I thought about it. I love you, I care about you. I want to I want to try and work this out. What's the what's what would be his biggest obstacle? Though?

9:45 I don't know that's on him. What is his obstacle now that's not allowing him to do it? I don't know that he's jealous. That's all I'm getting is that there's an element of jealousy, but that is already something that's fact. You can't get away from having some jealousy, you know what I'm saying. In life with people, it just happens. We always want something more or something or someone else or what do you know, Like there's always something And I just think, I mean, he if he he is open to trying something, and if you know, if it's too much, because if they're they have the boundaries they've discussed that they're constantly communicating and they're not breaking boundaries, then it could be a great thing. But can he be okay with another guy being around? Can he be okay with her kissing someone? Else or in break you know, being intimate with another person. And I don't know how she wants the open relationship right, because there's multiple ways of doing this where you can just agree with your partner that you can date other people.

11:05 But at the end of the day, you guys are together and you have a home together or things like that, right and you talk about it. It is not if you talk about it like you find you find peace. I don't know how to explain it. Like there was a big jealousy component for me in the beginning, but then I was just like, wait, like he's mine, I'm married to him, He's married to me. Like, at the end of the day, it's going to take a lot to get rid of that. Like it's not just something we can just walk away. I mean he could, but and so like, and my my situation is a whole completely different situation than you know, my own story. But I think people just have this idea like Polly is a certain way, but it isn't. It's it could be different things. There are people who have like a community and they just like I'm not saying that everyone is sleeping together. It's more of like there people who want a family, and the woman that gets married to the man is the queen, and then their sister wives or like other women who and these women help they they can also have children. There's stuff like that, like people,

12:37 because you know there's the Mormons who love like huge relationships. What does that say, I can't carry. You'll never be truly happy otherwise it will end badly. The more you hide yourself. It's true, it's true, Like you'll regret You'll regret it, you know, and then you bring kids into the picture, Like no, you know what I'm saying, Like you watch someone who you can have kids with, who is understanding of all this and is down with you. Yeah, yeah, definitely, because you damn see, I'm not I get it. Don't get it. The the whole idea of it.

13:21 I understand like I have. I mean, it's probably nothing like the TV shows and the ship you see on TV, because it's more to it than what you see. I mean, you can watch the shit on TLC. Like there's a lot of stuff out there so that you can actually see people's lives, what they're like. Like I would watch I would check out off the grid. Those are people that they really like. I don't know how they do shit. I don't know how they do this. They go live out and where there's nothing and they make it happen like I don't know, it's crazy. I like, And that's one of the people I saw that were Polly. I built, he bought land built a house for them, like they were shitty outside for a while because they didn't have a bathroom like you know.

14:12 But he there was a show a long time ago on HBO called Big Love. Yes, Big Love was about Mormons and and the church and how all that. Yeah, that was a great show. Big Love was a great show. Three houses something hold the sack and he owned all three houses and he went between all three houses. Ye wives and ship. I mean that's crazy, Like. I I wouldn't want, like to have another person like a sister, like I don't. I don't want that. Like adding people to the house is like yeah, and then it complicates things that is it's different and stuff like that.

15:02 But I don't know. There's just so many ways to do this. I mean, every everybody, I don't know. I've heard, like there's people who are in relationships who allow their partner. To but there's a difference there's a difference between me, I mean not belik at me, Pollyamory and swinging. Like means you love more than one person, you can love more than one person. And swinging you're just fucking. Is when like if me and my husband went to a swing club and there were other people fucking and we just get involved. It doesn't have to pay, by lord, Swinging is like to go. I mean, it's different. People have different rules and that's the thing too, Like people have boundaries and rules around this and it isn't like a free for all like we've seen in some movies and shit like that. Like this is no Womb of Thrones broth broth all that, like you know, like it's, uh, you can just walk around and watch, you can, you know, but the whole goal is to meet other people, is to see if you you know, connect in that way and if there's chemistry and stuff like that and you

16:34 go for it. Yeah, that's that's a little too much for me. Yeah, I don't. It's it's I mean, to each his own, you know what I mean. If everybody what was into that stuff, they could be into that stuff. They you know, yes, I agree, Like if it's not your thing. It's not your thing, and that's okay. That's why it's important to like be with someone or how someone who I think. I think it's it's all communication. It's all communication because if you can't communicate your feelings and you can't communicate what it is you think about and what it is you want to do, and it's definitely not gonna work, right, I mean, what's having a husband, having a boyfriend and a bou that that's that sounds confusing enough for me.

17:25 That is, it could be very complicated. You know, And I think I also think that how do you how do you juggle love? Because people fulfill different needs that we have. Sometimes one person can't fulfill all your needs. H Look, I know I know people couples because get a very long time and like, for instance, there's things sexually they don't want to do and they're okay if their parder goes and gets that somewhere else. Like I mean, that's weird to me, but like I get it, Like it's almost like it's selfless love because you're allowing someone to get a need met that you can't meet, that you can't meet. I can't speak basically, but I think like we do that or already in our relationships around us with friendships, like not everything is sexual, but different people will fulfill certain needs that we have emotionally intellectually in you know, like there's certain people you're going to go to to have a certain conversation. Correct, Like there's certain friends you're going to reach out to to get their opinion about something

18:56 specific or so in a way, that's that's relationships. These are people, They're fulfilling needs that we have. You know, our partner sometimes isn't always the person, right, You can't be everything for everyone. Yeah, it Amy says depends on your personal belief system as well. Well, yeah, obviously, like not everyone is gonna be down for this, but this is coming from a very open, progressive mindset. This is not for, uh, someone who's very conservative or very religious. You have very different beliefs and a different belief system and that's fine. But you also, like, just because you believe different doesn't mean it's not a good thing or it's not okay, Like, you know, people are different, that's what it is. Like we've only recently learned way more about autism and being on the autism spectrum as a huge thing. A lot of adults are learning that they're on the spectrum and they didn't realize it because there was never a diagnosis for that shit at one point, you know.

20:20 Right, right, I don't know. I mean, like I said, I. Mean, there are people who are asexual and and we we actually answered one of those questions before, and their partner wants sex, but they don't want it. So, you know, would you really be like, how do you expect someone who has a need you're not fulfilling it. They need that need fulfilled. You're not going to give it to them. They're gonna get it somewhere else. So when you actually take away that secrecy, it changes the way you see things and can be open and honest. You know, there's a difference between uh, physical sexual connection and emotional connection.

21:11 To me, emotional cheating is worse than someone just sleeping with somebody like that's me because when you make an emotional connection with someone like that's something real, like you're starting to have feelings that to me is way more involved than you just fucking somebody one night and that's it. You know, Like, whatever the excuse may be, I'm not saying it's right I'm just saying, like, to me, the emotional cheating is is worse. Yeah, because you put your put in a lot of yourself you know what I'm saying. You put in a lot of your your heart and your energy into this other person when you should be home doing that shit with with a woman. If if you know what I'm saying, I mean that's yeah, Yeah, you're right.

22:05 You got a lot of people saying, well, I can't talk to them? Why why why can't you talk to the supposed person who is supposed to be the love of your life, who is supposed to be a writer or die or whatever the case may be in the situation. Why couldn't If you can't talk to your partner, that's a huge red flag that it's something that you really need to like fucking talking to yourself and a therapist about. Because nah, like, yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, how the hell? How the hell can you be with someone share things with someone that you actually really can't share shit with.

22:50 Right, you know? I to me, that's it's bullshit because why wouldn't you give your partner an opportunity, the opportunity to hear your truth or where whatever it is that you need to share how you're feeling or whatever. Look, I there's instances I get people get easily annoyed after a while in relationships, or their patience isn't as much To me, that's a problem. I feel like you got to take a step back and like be like, what's going on? Why can't you know? My book comes home, he's bitching about work. It's gonna happen. People bitch about work.

23:34 But when the person just is like, oh, shut up, Like I don't want to hear this anymore. You know, that's not supportive. That's not me, that's not somebody. I mean if you're sitting there and you're trying to have a conversation about your feelings and about what you're going through and about what's what's going on, you feel what's going on in relationship and your party doesn't want to be a ship after it's ship, but he doesn't want to hear you. Don't hear you. That's a problem. That's a big fucking problem. Yeah, because it's like damn, like where like relationships will start start with a friendship? Where's our friendship? Because I should be able to talk to my friend, I should be able to bitch about my day to my friend, and my friend is supposed to be like, yeah, you're right, you know, like or you know, I'm sorry you had to deal with that, Yeah, and not just cut somebody off.

24:28 This is a long comment. Hold up, okay, read it? Okay, But what if the other person you're some kind of fucking with doesn't share much after you've had sex with them? What do you mean share much? Maybe there's no communication after the fact or not. Maybe I don't know, be more specific. Yeah, but yeah, it's it's it's all about it's all about communicating your feelings. It's all about, really, you know, finding that that connection with your partner that allows you to be who you really want to be and who you are, you know.

25:17 I mean, it's it's sad that communication isn't the forefront of most of these relationships these days, when it should be understanding one another, communicating with other, transparency, you know how that saying. I mean, it's it's all it's all important. And if you if you find yourself in and this is going out to everybody who's listening, if you find yourself in a situation where there is no communication or there's a lack of understanding and transparency. Open your fucking mouth, bro, like, say, listen, but this is what's up. I think you need to talk to me. I think you need to express what it is that's going on in your head. Don't just sit there and look stare at me with that fucking dumbfounded look on your face like you don't know what the hell is going on. You know what I'm saying, because don't don't, don't get me started. You know, you need to talk to me. You need to express to me what it is you're going through. I can't read fucking minds. Bro.

26:23 Yes, but there's also a way to communicate that without doing it, without saying all that craziness. Oh no, that's just it. Help it right now, you know what happens. Yeah, I think you if you start your conversation with I feel like or I feel that when whatever whatever this because it's taking like this is how I'm seeing it when you do ship who said what I see? No? No, no, no no, no, I'm not because of what you said, like you can't say it like that. Yeah, she's an exactly MoMA. I agree with you, girl.

27:08 Yeah, I mean I don't know like to me, this is very simple, basic, But I've also been just like obsessed with relationships and people and all that stuff. So like when I watch crazy shows like a Nidi Day Fiance and things like that, I'm just paying attention to the way people are and seeing the mistakes that people are making in the relationship. Half the time I'm yelling at the TV like you're an idiot, just fucking say something, you know, Like it's it's just boggling to me. But I realized too that a lot of the stems from what you saw growing up. So like if you didn't see a stable, loving, affectionate relationship with your parents, you know, chances are you're not going to be expecting that wanting that as much in a relationship. We kind of look at our parents and set like that's the expectation. This is what I'm learning. Like I unfortunately learned that they can fuck up, doesn't matter how bad, and we forgive.

28:26 So it was like even if you were disrespected, it didn't matter, Like it was almost like your level of respect worth and everything didn't matter because that was your husband that was the main like, and and it was abusive, and it's like, no, you should you were afraid, is the truth. You didn't know any better. Yeah, but you were also scared to be on your own, and I get that, and that takes a lot. However, you always put your childure first, like that was my situation with my family, and my mom didn't do that. So so from that, I have scars and trust issues where I tend to do the opposite and trust people too quickly or give them the benefit of the doubt because I'm so hopeful, you know, because I'm like, oh no, it can work out, it will work this time, or this was really great. I have stopped that though I no longer do that, but that's where I was at at most of my life. So so it's it. They say, like, don't like hold onto the past, but the truth is you need to look back at the past. Yeah, and you need to kind of process the past now as an adult. Your perspective is going to be so much

29:57 different now. Absolutely, And it. Was then the things that hurt you, the things that made you feel at a way today probably wouldn't because you're coming from a different place. You're coming with age, you're coming with experience, you're coming with life lessons. Right, So they say that you should read your favorite books like every once like ten years or something, so that you can see if if you like, change the way you feel about the book or the perspective of reading.

30:37 Now this story might be different. You may have experienced things now that make you understand the book better or whatever. Right, so, yeah, you have a different perspective and understanding of this shit, you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's that's that's all. That's all it is. You just gotta reevaluate theircumstances in which you grew up, you know, And that's that's that's tough for some people. Some people it's hard because a lot of us went through really bad ship and a lot of us had trauma, and a lot of us had abuse, and a lot of us had you know, neglect or whatever. Like there's unfortunately that generation, that boomer generation, they were just again it was that cycle, that cycle that kept going and hopefully were the cycle breakers. That's that's what I try to be. That's what I encourage other people to be, Like, you have to recognize the cycle and then then you'll know how to that You need to break it, and then you know how to break it.

31:49 Yeah, So with that being said, Polly pocket. Pocket, Oh girl, I know it's gonna hurt. I mean, if he's willing to give it a try and see. But if it's too much for him, I say, move on. Yeah, you deserve to be happy. Everyone deserves to be happy. Yeah, and always always keep in mind that, you know, if if it doesn't work out and you know you have to move. On, you can always call it the COO. Don't call it, just.

32:31 The fuck out of it? Oh man? Lord? Yeah, all right. So second email the night someone named Debbie. All right, Debby, here's the tag on the email. I had a threesome with my boyfriend and his twin. I think they're in love with each other and I'm freaking out. Oh shit, all right, here we go. All right, this is weird. I know it's even weirder to post this on your site. But I'm very confused right now and I feel kind of dumb. Me and my boyfriend have been dating for about a year, and I'm usually the type of girl that's up for anything. Our sex life is amazing and we have a We have good communication in general. We go to the same university. We live about ten minutes from each other and in other words, things are good. His twin brother was always in the picture, and I knew they were really close even before we

34:04 started dating. But I thought that was just normal. Honestly, it might be just that I'm overthinking. I honestly don't know. Yesterday we were in bed and out of nowhere. He asked me what I think about threesomes and whether I'd be okay with having one with his brother. After a lot of convincing, I agreed, and fine, you can judge me all you want. I just thought i'd try it. Listen, Debbie, there is no judgment here.

34:47 Look at that bucket list. Just keep look at the name of the show. This is not a judgment zone. Okay, all right, all right, so con all right. So after a lot of convincing, I agreed, and fine, you can judgement you want. Blah blah blah. I read that, and the way he described it made it seem less crazy than it sounds as I'm writing it now. Okay, Okay, anyways, long story short, The actual threesome was okay. At first. I was uncomfortable, but my boyfriend initiate. But my boyfriend initiated it and was fine not to get into much detail. You're fucked up right there because you really like details. Yeah, so you really should have got into details. But anyway, but there was a few red flags that kept coming up which I can't stop thinking about. For starters. For starters, they started kissing each other, Okay, okay, a lot amongst other things that I really can't get into here. But I was just but it was just off. Now. I know this sounds. I know how this sounds. I know

36:18 I shouldn't have agreed from the start, but I did, and as a result, I can't look at him the same. It feels like he was trying to tell me he's in love with his brother or something. It's just really confusing, and I have no idea how to open the subject up like it like it is, like is it even my place? Sorry in advance for this weird ass freaking email, but I needed to share it. Thank you. Any advice would help. Debbie. Oh, Debbie, first mistake you made was doing something you weren't one hundred percent on board with. Right, So, like we talked about before, doing something to please someone else, don't do it. You have to be on board.

37:10 Wah. Just something told you this is not a good idea. You should have stuck and listened. But now that you didn't, now that the blood it commenced, and seriously, I would not deal with that man anymore. So. I know twins are close. I know there are siblings out there that are really discussing. They'll shower together, they'll there's no boundaries. I don't think that's okay.

37:51 Let's clarify that. I want to classify that boundaries belong. Yes, especially with family. Okay, there are things that are borderline in sense ancestual, and that's what I'm hearing. Because kissing is a lot, very very intimate. Also means that they did things to each other. Yeah, okay, we don't even need to say yeah. So that means this probably happens without.

38:33 Her, that's wrong. Or they use a threesome as an excuse to do this, which could be the case too. Now, are loving, loving your siblings, but we ain't fucking siblings. Nah, bro, there's codes, there's laws for a reason. Oh girl, I'm sorry you did this to yourself. But at the same time, like you can write write about it in your book in of ten years, I mean, but like, that's that's crazy.

39:15 I'm sorry, Like that's even too much. You know how open I am about things, and that is just way too much. And I've seen like very weird shit. I watch TC just go on TOC and just watch any of their goddamn shows, especially once with siblings. It is disturbing or the mom's super disturbing. Boundaries are important, and I always find it weird, like when people will put like their parent about their partner or because it's like you're supposed to live your life like your parents always going to be your parent. Your sibling is always going to be your sibling, you know. But if you're down to be intimate with your sibling, you have a serious issue.

40:02 This is like an episode on a Lore and Order SBO that I think I've watched, so this might her podcast, got it is, but this could have been a Loren Order story right now. It's just it's crazy. Oh that's crazy, that's. But just but just hold on for a second. Pick just just look. Listen to the camera, Look at the camera. You're having sex with your boyfriend. His brother comes in, they start making out in their twins and you're looking at them and you're like, what the fuck. First, I'm like, I don't even know who's who with the like which one is my boyfriend? I don't even know.

40:49 You know what I'm saying, like, you're looking at them. If they're identical anyway, And and yeah, I kid says a lot. So so that's why I'm saying, like, that's intimate, that's that's crazy. No, please get them to a therapist or something like, oh my god, you might. Want to fuck the therapist. I mean, I don't know. I mean, no, no, she's crazy. That's just crazy. That's now. You guys are on the line somewhere and they totally went over the line. Yeah, they fucking they when the line?

41:29 Now the question the question This is a good question though, Who took it? Who who took at the distance? Was the brothers for asking her or was it her for actually trying to see what the ship was going to be about. I mean, he was gonna ask her regardless, but her dumbass decided to listen to him instead of what she really wanted. Right, she shouldn't have done it. I don't know, I don't know. It's down the line. So maybe it's a good thing that happened, because what if she got even more invested in this relationship and down the line something happens or she gets to see this or finds out about them or something, you know, that would be worse.

42:14 So maybe it's good that you decided to to take that chance, and then you got to see that that man and his brother need therapy badly. Wow brothers, Oh my god? Possibly like oh my god. No, like I'm telling you, I get it. The sibling thing is like there's oh my god, but there's still boundaries, like there's still things you don't. Do, right, Oh, Lauren, Yeah, that's let's get it over.

42:56 What a lucky therapist. If they do go, that's gonna be in seat. You're definitely making man. But we know one of them is going to be like one of them is going to be crying for sure. That is insane. Those were very very good emails. Questions, yeahs, but now I am changed forever. I kind of wish we didn't hear that story.

43:40 Oh Ship, what are we doing here? I don't understand bring them though, Kate Bringo's crazy This question alone. Them, Oh Ship, that's fucking hilarious show. Oh Debbie, oh lord, yeah. Day, I think I think so. Do you think it's it's it's it's worse when you have two brothers. Oppose, I mean either way, it's bad if you had two sisters. And then your two sisters too, like, I don't care if it's women and they're it would probably be because it's women, but your fucking sisters. Why don't you bring your mom to What the fuck this is weird?

44:35 Oh ship? Oh my god? No? Like in my book, like and cousin, two siblings, parents, nobody, No, No, family should be fucking. You shouldn't be sucking your stepdaddy or your step mom. You shouldn't be fucking your uncles or your aunts. Like, no, no, your cousin. No, don't do it. Yes, that's that's yeah, damn. Bro, don't do it? Please? And what if she ended up knocked up from the brother that wasn't her boyfriend.

45:17 Which, no, she wouldn't know. She wouldn't know if they're identical twins, they have the same DNA, she wouldn't know which one is the father. That's terrible, that's crazy, right right, Oh lord. She wouldn't know. She had taken them both to Morey Moore, we was gonna be like, I don't know, I can't help you. They're both the father. You are are not the father. You are, but we're not sure the father a lot, especially after this show tonight.

46:02 Holy shit, Oh god, Okay, I know this is off topic, but have you seen I wrote it down because I keep forgetting the title one battle after another. The movie with DiCaprio. Yes, yeah, you did. See it, man, I watched it last night. I can like, I'm still thinking about that movie. I'm still thinking about the ship that they did to people in that movie, and I still I'm just like, I'm just like, you know, I know it's a movie. I know it is fiction, but there's a lot of truth in there. And there's a lot like there's some ship they touched on where I am.

46:49 Just like, let me tell you not so much. That's so relevant. Right now we bring up. Movies, we can talk about what the topic is for the night. One of the topics is movies, shows, and story time. So let's start with the movies. Well, I don't know if we're gonna get to story time, but let's with movies. All right, So give me. I can't do my top movies. It's it's difficult. I have like very like I like a lot of different things like. A lot, right, you just can't pick a couple of them that that.

47:34 You I agree, I did, But then I also wrote down all the Best Picture Oscar nominees because I wanted to ask you to see if you've seen any of them. But I will give you the movies that I really love that came off the top of my head. But I know there's more. Okay, all right, all right, that's good. You give? Can you give for the fans of the show that that are watching a brief description of what you say the film is like you know what you think? No, that's too much, bro, Mean Girls If you haven't seen its, okay, just watching me. Girls got back. So I see Mean Girls. Mean Girls is a great fucking movie. Okay, all right?

48:20 American history acts, Yes, so American history acts, definitely. I feel these to be watched by everyone. It is about the KKK and racism going all the way into prison, and Edward Norton is the main character. And it is very graphic. There is some really fucked up shit that happens, but it is a great story with a great like lesson, lots of lessons in that movie. I like movies that are like teach you something kind of you know, like you get something from it, which reminds me of another fucking movie that was like that, and I can't remember the name of it with it had cops.

49:14 It was. Oh man, that's gonna bother me. I gotta figure out what the name of that movie is. Then I also really love Constantine. Yes, I love Keanu Reeves, so I love Constantine. I love like Matrix, but just the Matrix. I don't really care for too much, too much of the other ones as much as just the main movie. John Wick love the John Wick movie. Did you see did you see? Did you see that? That other one on one Ballerina? I have not seen I have not seen three. No, you haven't seen one.

49:57 One Wick. No, I have not seen Warthwick. Okay, oh my god. I'm trying to think if that movie was like True Colors. No, that's not the name of it. I don't know. I think maybe it is that. Then. Yes, Sean Penn is in the movie, so I'm a big fan of Sean Penn too. He was great, great in One Battle After the Man. Did he play a good villain? Oh? I want I wanted him dead so many times. But what Robert Penn.

50:40 Yes, that's a really also another movie that touches a lot on racism. What's the Denzel movie that He's the cop? The Yes, Training Day was a great movie. What else did I write? I love Tropic Thunder. I don't give a ship where anyone says I love that movie. I can watch it over and over. I do love like Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm a big fan of Marvel. Oh. I love the Batman Begins like that series mm hmm. But I also love like the cheesy Batman's from before the ones who like Jim Carrey and Ship like that, like those were good classics. No, no, I don't know.

51:33 I feel like my I don't even think I'm hooked up to my Wi Fi. I don't know my phone's being weird. Then I have to change the router Anyway, off topic. But there's a lot of movies. Uh, but I Marvel, Yes, I like. Uh, there's another. There's a few like newer ones like Moonlight was really good. I tend to like to watch the movies that are nominated for Oscars and awards and stuff, just to see if I feel like it was worthy.

52:17 You know, type shit, did you see Sinners, then no. That's on my list. I have to watch sixteen. That's a lot, So yeah, I have them on my list. I have not seen Sinners, but I definitely need to that. I think I might watch that tonight. Yeah I would. I would definitely watch that. It's a really good film. There's a few I have like on that. We'll get to that after. But what is your did you pick like a top or something? No, I got I got five because I'm also I'm big into films, So I got I got five that I really really enjoyed. The first one I got on the list is Good Fellas. Okay, all right, yeah, Radioda can't argue radio. You know Robert de Niro all in one film. Argue with that. The Godfather are too.

53:18 Okay, okay, all right, I'll be honest. I've never watched any of the Godfollowers. Oh man. So, and then I have the Last of the Mohicans. Yeah, very good film. It was a really good movie. I have Avengers Infinity War, not Endgame, the last one, the one before that when while he's collecting the stones and when he finally snaps the finger and everybody starts. Yeah, that film. I thought was actually the better one out of the two the last two. Another one Tombstone.

54:03 I remember, but I don't think I've watched that one. Yeah, that's with Val Kilmer. Yes, I got the post on my wall. What's his face? Keith is Keith for Sutherland in that one? Or that you're talking about Young Guns? Ah, okay, but it's the same kind of it's a Western. It's a Western. Yeah. And then I have I have some honorable mentions here. Oh boy boy, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them is Vanilla Sky. Oh that was a good one. Oh you you just made me think of Robin Williams movies.

54:44 I know he wasn't in that, but well there's one. There's one that Robin Williams did call What Gamis May Come. Oh my god, I was just thinking of that. That is an amazing movie. Yes, Insomnia he did with al Pacino. Yes, Yes, that's a good one. There's a ton of a ton of his. Good Morning Vietnam was really good. There's a lot of those. And then the first movie I ever saw in the movie theater that I could remember is the animated Transformers, the movie in nineteen eighty six. Oh wow, yeah, that one, and then Scarface, but this is the difference, not the one with al Pacino, the original from nineteen thirty two. Okay, that that Scarface is the one that really really got me because you can see the similarities between both films, the one with al Pacino and the one from nineteen thirty two. A lot of people don't know about that one, but it's definitely a good watch. It's interesting to watch to see how they got they got from they got the source material from this film. It's really good. So and I think I think it really set the groundwork for a lot of the gangster films we see today, you know what I'm saying, Because there weren't really a lot of crime films in the thirties, right, the thirty two.

56:06 I mean there's a lot of like love stories, I think, right, it was more like romance. Shit. Yeah, so those are those are my movies. So what do you have for shows? Oh? God, I didn't even touch that because I have like eight million shows I love. Okay, I mean. Let's see, I love Breaking Bad. I thought that was an amazing show. The Wires aren't just the New Black. I didn't finish watching that, but that was definitely something I thought was good at least the first few seasons.

56:51 Yeah, the first few seasons. There's actually I feel like I like a lot of the shows on Netflix, Like, I feel like Netflix actually has a good reputation with their shows, and then they have a lot of like those short series so it just feels like a long ass movie just broken up, and I like those a lot. Do you watch documentaries? I love documentaries? You see did you see the one called the Long Shot? Yes? Yes, I did, Yes, yes, that they actually caught on fucking camera. Yes, that was a crazy story. So love stories like that, Like I love true stories. I love true crime. I used to love sitcoms back in the day because that's what we had, right, So yeah, I was huge, Love Love, Love, Will and Grace, Parks and Rec.

57:54 I'm trying to think I had another show. Uh Like, I like Seinfeld, but it wasn't like huge, Like I like Parks and Rec more than Seinfeld. I like The Office, but I like Parks and Rec more. Like I'm trying to think what else? Uh? WILLI and Grace is like one of my favorites. I can watch that shit over and over. That's the thing too, Like the shows that you could just watch over and over, even if it was in the background, Like those are the good shows because it's just like constantly just there, which I love. So Friends is another one that I watched. I feel though, like so my perspective on Friends has changed as I got older, because I feel like it was just a bad representation of people who live in the city because like all they were all white. They were you know, like there was just a lot of things like it's coffee place, but there were times they didn't have jobs.

59:04 You're probably saying, so white people don't act like this. And just like the apartment and like all all this stuff and like like Joey probably didn't pay rent all the time. So Chandler was the one really like holding it down. Which I'm sure there are roommates out there like that, but like it just it was just like there's a lot about it that I'm just like, nah, whatever, So. I don't care a duck and a chick. I mean that I love Phoebe, Like that is the one thing I will say about that show, Like Phoebe is probably my favorite character. Like there isn't anything that she didn't do that like didn't make me laugh because she was just so silly and like her songs. Her Smelly Cat Like was one of my favorites.

59:52 Said she had her brother's kids. She had her brother's kids, the triplets, it's right, and it did emotionally damage her. She was so sad that she had to give them up. If you remember, she wanted to keep one. So but she didn't sleep with her brother, so that's okay, that's different. She was a surrogate. That's a completely different. But yeah, there was. I was trying to think what else because there were other shows. I mean, there were shows back in the days like Full House and Family Matters and just all that shit.

1:00:34 I remember alf I remember Punky Brewster, the one with the girl. That was a robot. Ye hold on, I know, I know the name of it, Small Wonder. Small Wonder. And there was another one about time where the girl would do like this or something and she would stop tying. Did you remember that one? You than me then? Because I don't remember that. I am not. You are older than me. Unbelievable. Oh see, even the long time then it was like, yo, that was wrong, like, don't do that.

1:01:16 I don't remember that one. I just saw what crazy thing is? I just saw it on Facebook too, like on one of those eighties pages that shares like the old shows. I gotta look for it and I'll share it with you because when I saw it is when I remembered it. I think if you see it, you might remember it. And then I because I remembered it was like a special power that she had. Like I'm wondering if this was a Nickelodeon show or if it was like on TV like Punky Brewster and stuff like that, because it was I feel like around that time, and Nickelodeon started coming out with the shows later, right. Yeah, in the nineties, yeah one o one oh. Yeah, because I didn't say it. I didn't say I just want to let you know. I didn't say it when Midnight three one seven and seven, nine two one oh, Let's get it straight.

1:02:11 Nine two o was a show the one saying that you were like saying that was a great show. And then there was Melrose Place, like they couldn't help themselves. I didn't like nine because it just wasn't relatable. It was like rich Beverly Hills kids like all wanting to date each other like whatever, dude, Like I think there was the other show with Claire Dean's was it on MTV that one? Don't I don't know that one. Oh, yes you do, everyone does. I can't remember.

1:02:51 I'm not going my life is that? Is that the name? But I'm not going front. There was a show I used to watch that that was on the c W, which is eleven back then it's still It was called Roswell. Yes, I watched that. That was good, but that they canceled that show, didn't they after like a couple of seem Yeah, that was a good show, wasn't it about like, uh Roswell New Mexico. Yeah, I remember with Aliens and ship that was that was the cool show. Mm hmm. But yeah, and they I hated that though, like when they good, like what we think is a good show they were watching and they fucking they end that ship.

1:03:34 I'm like why it was so good? But then they give Hunting Wives another season? This it was my so called life. But then they give that stupid show Hunting Wives another season on Netflix and I'm like why because everybody's fucking is that why? I don't understand. I don't think everybody of the show. Hunting Wives softcore porn and for all you guys out there, Yeah, this is like skinnamax. That's exactly what it is. Oh my god, it's so crazy. It's the craziest show. And I watched it and like that. The last episode made me feel like Game of Thrones last season, where they just kind of like threw it all as everything they could into that last horrible I'm like, why would you do that? This is horrible. You're like rushing into things, and then all of a sudden, these things are happening.

1:04:31 I'm like, bro, this show is whack. And then they're like coming with season two. I was like, no, you damn housewives watching these horrible shows. Why? Oh man, all right, let me let me give you mine. I have the Sopranos. Mm hmmm. I have Boardwalk Empire. I didn't watch that. It's said during the pro it's a very good show. Okay, the Wire, of course. I like Ozark was good. The first few seasons of Power I watched a lot.

1:05:13 Of I started to watch Power, but I didn't finish I have Stars though I probably should. Yeah, and all the spinoffs are pretty good. Okay the spin off one of them just finished, but there's another one. There's two more I think coming out that are gonna be interesting to watch, and then honorable mentions. Now, look, I know I'm not from the South. I know, I don't know. I don't know shit about oil drilling. But that show land Man, it's really fucking good. Bro.

1:05:53 It's a show like a reality. Series on It's on Paramount. It's cool man, Paramount. Sorry not doing it. In amazing bro crazy. I was like when they told me about it, I was like, what the fuck am I gonna do? Watch the show about oil drilling and country dudes and ship the first episode, I was hooked. Oh wow, I was hooked. Land Man is is. Yeah, it's a really, really, really good show. Actually, I changed the name from a Pregidenta to the Landman. That's my name now, the lamb Man. Okay, it's a really it's a really good show. I was. I was. I'm very happy with it. And I'm still up to episode seven of season two. It's almost over. It finished already on Paramount the second season, so I got like three episodes four episodes left before I'm done with the second season that I'm all caught up. What else did you ever see?

1:06:58 Dead to me? On Netflix? Mm? Hmmm, that's a good one. I didn't see the last season. I want to rewatch it. Actually, yeah, that one was good. I like Christian male Gabe. Yeah what else? Like? I didn't Now, I wasn't a fan of the final season of Stranger Things, but up until. Like, oh, I loved all of it. Stranger Things is on my list too. I love Things. That was a great joke. And I posted this ship all right. I posted something that said, and this was weeks before the finale, and I got it. It's on It's on the book, it's on the fan page. I said, look, if this ship ends okay with the kids finishing a game a fucking d n D, I'm gonna flip ship. And let me tell you why I said that. Okay, did you ever watch Lost? No, so you have no idea how it ended.

1:08:11 But you know that there was like seven seasons of that. Ship, right, Yes, I know how it ended? All right. Isn't that some fucked up bitch ship? Yes, but this is not the same Stranger Things. I know. But what I'm saying is it ended stupidly? No, it ended showing that going. No, I'm talking about Lost, oh Lost? Sorry, it ended like how the hell do you make us watch all this ship? And it ended with somebody like waking up like it was a it was a fucking dream. Right like, and and.

1:08:54 I was, and I was, and I was watching I was watching the finale The Stranger Things. I was. I was watching Mike type his story out, and I started saying to myself, Yo, what if it's just what if this is his story? Like what if it? Then then they showed they showed the survival guy, So what if what if this was one whole big thing for his survival guide? You know what I'm saying? Like I was, Yeah, I was, but they didn't do that. So they just nodded to it because that's what brought them together. And then there was the next generation of kids do it playing the game. So that's that's what that was about. It's like the ending of Sopranos, bro like I wish, I felt I felt unfulfilled.

1:09:41 Game of Thrones, there was so much that last season. The way they ended things was so disappointing. It was just like it's because it is, like you put it. You watch all these fucking years of seasons and that and most times we waited, you had to wait for the episode to come out. It wasn't like we were binge watching all of it. Then you're you're fucking watching waiting, and then you're waiting to watch it and you watch it and you're like, what the fuck just happened? This is ridiculous. See. And then we got some comments about the ending of the Sopranos, right, yeah, but a lot of people, a lot of people don't under they don't understand about the ending is that they talked about it a couple of episodes prior so him and Bobby if y'all, if y'all watched the show, it was an episode I think called family something. It was in the six season, the last season part b like the third episode in him and Bobby chilling on the lake and they were talking and he says to Bobby, he asked Bobby, he was like, Yo, what do you think happens when you die? And Bobby says, Oh, I don't know. I'm assuming everything just goes black mm hmm.

1:11:03 And then he was like, that's that's what the thing happens. You don't think you know, the light, the light and nothing. He was like, no, I think everything just goes black. I mean you're dead. So that's how it ended. He sees his wife, he sees his daughter coming in, and boom, everything just goes black. You have to assume that maybe there's a connection, that there is a. Death, that there was a death. So that's what I got out of it. I wasn't that upset because I pay attention. Wow, So that was that? Oh that's gross. Yeah. I wouldn't choose and I wouldn't have been into that. That was a bad Yeah.

1:11:44 Yeah, oh man, oh man, that's yeah. Now you're gonna have to wash it down with something that's gonna taste. When I was going and I think I'd like almost out here, I got more than I do. Yeah, that's terrible. Why did you even do that to yourself? I don't know. I'm hungry. So yeah, all right. So with that being said, do you have any of the shows in mind? Well, no movies, because I'm going to get into the Sinners like you told me.

1:12:25 Yes, Sinners is an amazing film. Another one on the list is Frankenstein. Have you seen that one? The one on De Toro? Very good movie. Okay, I'm going to check that one out. There's one called Marty Supreme, but I don't know what that is. I haven't heard that one that's on Peacock. I actually want to watch that. Okay, The Sinners one called Sentimental Value, I don't know. I haven't heard that one either. Ham next, no idea. There's one called f one that's on Apple.

1:13:07 Yeah, that's with okay, but do you know it's a racing movie. Oh okay. Then there's one called The Secret Agents. That's a show, right. No, I think it's a movie because it's her best picture. Oh I haven't. I haven't seen that one either. And there's another one that's on Netflix, so I'm gonna check it out. It's called Train Dreams. I assume dreaming about trains. I mean, I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know. Has anyone out there seen any of these movies? Are they worth watching? I have no idea. Obviously, I can't watch all of them because they're not all on Like, I can't watch something that's on Apple. I don't have that.

1:13:54 But I am going to check out the ones that I can watch on like Max that have Max Peacock and that's like so I'm gonna see what I could watch. But I don't know. I will say, like I really like if if I'm still thinking about a movie like a day later and stuff or just things about a movie, to me, that means that movie was a good fucking movie because it made an impact on me right where I'm still thinking about shit that went down in that movie and how I really look at the acting and I feel like if you're yelling at the TV at them or whatever, or like you're like what are you doing?

1:14:41 Like they're playing their character well, you know, like I think Leonardo Dicapito did a great job in his role, Like he played someone who was drunk and high all the time basically, and and you could tell that he didn't really think shit was going to go down the way it went down, right, so he wasn't prepared. But but it's just crazy like from inception even what's her name, Teana Taylor? She yeah, she did a phenomenal job. She like. She left you kind of just like what the fuck?

1:15:26 So to me that was like okay. Then, so then like the twist that happens later and the the things that go on, and just I think, to me, what hit hard was just like how easy certain people can get away with murder or like how easy someone can if in the right position, right, like just go after someone. Like that's crazy to me. You don't have a whole tribe with you. You know what? What movie fucking not fucked my head up, but kind of got me Vanilla Sky. Yeah, So I'm sitting there watching it and I'm like, all right with chilling and everything. And he goes when he says to him, they're here because of you. You can control them. You're their god. And he was like, yeah, I just wish everybody would just shut the fuck up. And when they all shut up, he was like and I was now was saying, like, what the fuck is going on here? Like, what's this shit?

1:16:32 I need to watch that again because It's been a long ass time since I've seen that movie. And then when he goes, when he goes, when he's when he calls, when he finally calls for tech support, I was like, what the fuck is happening. He gets in the elevator and he starts to explain to him what happened, and then he says to him he goes. The part that really got this, the part that really got me, is when he says consequences, the choices we make always have consequences. Yes, he got into the car with with that chick and she killed herself with him in the car. That's the and and then that was that that was the the ultimate consequence to him. He had he had spent the night with what's her face with? Uh?

1:17:26 I forgot the name of the character in the movie already. Yeah, well anyway, whoever Penelope Cruz played Okay, her name. Was Penelope Cruise was in this okay, and Tom Cruise. Right, yeah, and Cameron Diaz. Yeah, I gotta watch it again because because I'm also the last movie I'm remembering with him that I liked was Minority Report. Yeah, that was a good one. Sophia, that's the name of the character that she played. Her name was Sophia. So he was he had just finished chilling with Sofia overnight. He comes outside. Karen Diaz's character pulls up and says, oh, you were hanging out what's her face? Let's go for a ride, and he was.

1:18:10 He looked, he looked, and he was like, I shouldn't, but he goes. I fucking He gets in the car and she kills himself with him in the car. And then at some point that's when he he was deformed, and it was just a really good film. A lot of people don't like it. I don't like Tom Cruise, but I thought it was a underrated film. It was a good. I'm not a fan of his bore because of scientology stuff now in the later but like earlier stuff, I like, I don't care for Mission Impossible movies, Like they're not like a big deal to me. Maybe in the past when they first came out, I was into them, but like now I could care less and like, I don't know.

1:18:55 He had some rules that he did a really good job in, like. And if you were a vampire. Oh yeah, that's right. He was good than that, which is the one with to show me the money. Oh, Jerry Maguire. Jerry Maguire, that was really good. He was great in Tropic Thunder was he was really good at that movie. But yeah, I mean he shows that he can act, like he's a versatile actor, so I you know, he he knows what he's doing. The Those Guy was was a good one. But I don't have to watch that one because I don't remember it as much. And then you got me thinking of what dreams may come yeah, which I haven't seen in a long time. But what's the other one that he I enjoy?

1:19:43 I enjoy movies based on true stories. For example, Roofman, which in my opinion, was a good movie. I don't think i've ever that's on. I think it's on on Netflix now. It's with Roofman. It's with Shannon Tatum. Okay, Oh I did see Max has it? The movie? Uh about the the I was gonna say, the w W, it's not it's the UFC guy. Smash smash something. Yeah the Rock? Did you I didn't even know it was him?

1:20:25 Yeah, I saw it was Oh you did see its story? Yeah? Okay, because I saw it came up yesterday and I was like, my friend told me that it was The Rock. I'm like, wait what talk. I'm like around, like, man, they did good job off this makeup. Holy ship. Yeah all right, Yeah, that's a good Listen, some pretty good list here. Lots of movies, lots of shows, lots of like crazy things out there.

1:21:05 Yeah, like having threesomes with twin brothers. My lord, when you find out that you're the one they're not really into, that's. A problem, right when you get kicked off the bed. Yeah, motion. Basically just that's just nuts. My Lord Polly Pocket. If you're watching get out while. You can, that's straight. You're you're gonna be all right. Yeah, you'll be fine. And maybe I don't even know what to tell you. Get a therapist because that's like that sucks. I can't, I can't even right now.

1:21:53 The House of Dynamite, the ending pissed me off. House of Dynamite. I don't think I know one. Yeah, all right, let's see our next all right. So with that being said, look at the time, anybody wants to see something funny, hang around to the end of the countdown. Anybody wants to go to fucking sleep, go to fucking sleep. Thanks for joining us tonight. We appreciate you, guys, Love you guys. So everybody who commented talk ship with us.

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